with Laurel Holloman Jan. 25, 2004
（开头是欢迎词就不翻译了。这次访谈是在第一季第二集Let’s Do It播出之后的即时线上访谈）。
Laurel：能和大家交谈我真的非常激动。这一集的基调与试播集大不相同，我很想知道大家的看法。
ebb2002:感谢你抽出时间参与访谈。我想请问对你来说参与本剧演出的最大惊喜是什么？
Laurel：我觉得对我来说最大的惊喜就是发现原来女性那么具有聚集力，而大家一起工作又是多么让人惊奇。
Kitkat：你认为Tina是对怀孕来肯定自己吗？
Laurel：随着剧集展开，你会发现有些时候Tina确实会用怀孕这件事来肯定自己，她也发现这件事多么危险。我想知道这对女性意味着什么，而IC也想探索对于一个位居高位的女性来说辞职怀孕意味了什么。我认为Tina最大的错误就是为了能够怀孕放弃工作，而整季剧集探讨的就是辞职怀孕对这个群体的影响。
mostlywild98：你觉得Tina性格里最难演出的真实部分是什么？
Laurel：我觉得对我来说最难的部分是她性格极度柔和，不爱抗争。我本人是个控制狂，而且很多地方我和Tina都不一样。所以对我来说要表演出她那种温柔的品质是非常难的。我不仅比她莽撞的多，脾气也比她急的多。
latinamimi2：那你喜欢她的性格吗？
Laurel：Tina是非常忠诚的人。不管是对爱情，还是对友谊，她都非常忠诚且深情，她同时还具备一种洛杉矶极为缺乏的精神品质。我认为这些品质很可爱，扮演起来也非常有趣。
（注：此处洛杉矶缺乏的精神品质可参考第四季第七集以后Laurel与IC的对谈中Laurel提及的“在洛杉矶非常难交到朋友”一话。）
Kimtowin：为扮演Tina你都做了什么准备？
Laurel：开拍前没多久我就投入到了角色之中，其实有些时候你需要为角色做很多准备但有时候又不需要，无论哪种，你都希望能够完成好工作。我绝大部分的准备工作都是和IC及Rose Troche一起探讨Tina的过去。就她的取向而言，Tina的过去和我开始以为的大不相同。但我不能再说了，不然我就剧透了。除此之外，我基本就是为了裸戏努力锻炼，同时学习所有我能学的“对话”。至于女同性恋角色对我来说没有任何问题，毕竟我曾出演过《双姝奇恋》，而这部电影基本上可以说是我的事业开端了。
cruise13:你希望Tina怎么发展？
Laurel：我希望她能更加独立，我希望她能在生活中找到更多的平衡点。不过，对我来说，看到角色如此失衡也是件非常美妙的事。对于一个演员来说，扮演高大上伟光正的角色是非常无聊的，而在TLW中，所有角色都有自己的缺陷，这非常美妙。
oxymoron:你怎么看待“异性恋演员扮演同性恋角色”的批评？对我来说只要不是男人出演女同性恋，我倒觉得无所谓。
Laurel：是啊！在完美世界里也许会有女同性恋角色全部由女同性恋演员扮演这样的好事。不过基于同样的逻辑，是不是演员的性取向必须与角色性取向相匹配？如果这样是不是同性恋演员就不允许扮演异性恋角色？所以我认为重点还是在于角色上，在于庆祝这部剧能够播出上。希望以后在好莱坞我们能够身先士卒地营造出一个让人安心出演的创作氛围。
oswegomv:拍摄乡村俱乐部那一幕时，幕后是不是和播出的一样好笑？
Laurel：对，我们拍摄那一幕时乡村俱乐部简直像经历了一场暴乱。和Jennifer在那个场合亲热是非常让人愉快的事。后来我们步行出来遇到Tammy Lynn Michaels朝着Mooning大喊时我们都笑了。没错，那就是今天这集的基调：好玩。
（注：这一幕就是大家帮着Dana测试Lara取向那段，Tammy Lynn Michaels就是那个爱Shane爱到骨子里的Lacey）
beth:角色中有多少部分倾注了你个人特质？
Laurel：我们的角色里都倾注了很多个人特质。就像我之前说的，IC是个非常好的倾听者， Rose与Gwen也是。我们把许多东西都摊到桌面上来说。
slzsu:这一季中你希望看到Bette和Tina探索感情的哪些方面？
Laurel：在仅有一人提供家庭收入时，不管同性关系还是异性关系都会发生的权利斗争。
Semiaimes：我认为不管性取向为何，每个观众都能从某个或者全部的角色中看到部分甚至全部的自己。如果你没有扮演Tina，你最认同的会是哪个角色？
Laurel：毫无疑问会是Shane。
Kendra：通过我所读的那些访谈，我能看到TLW播出对社会产生了非常重要的影响。你有没有亲身体会过这部剧对男女同性恋社群所产生的的积极影响？
Laurel：对我来说，第一次意识到TLW对社会产生重要影响是在New York杂志上刊载的当地女同性恋群体发声上。我们的剧，尽管展示的只是洛杉矶，却在美国其它亚文化群里中饱受赞扬，尤其是纽约，它和洛杉矶是非常不同的两个城市。就我个人来说，在拍摄《双姝奇恋》时我就得到了青少年同志群体的强烈反响。这很棒，因为青少年同志群体的自杀率一直很高，而《双姝奇恋》则给了他们一个正面影响。只可惜这是一部独立电影，受众很小。所以对我来说，TLW能够有如此广泛的影响是非常令我激动与兴奋的，我希望它能为未来的女同性恋角色铺平道路。
Mam：我喜欢今晚女同场景中展示的不可能/酷儿之眼。相比严肃的戏剧场面，你是不是更喜欢幽默的场景？
Laurel：我更倾向于二者平衡。如果连续几天场景很严肃，会让人筋疲力尽。这时新一天的轻松场景会让人耳目一新，我想TLW的编剧很好地融合了幽默与严肃，而且随着剧情推移，TLW会探索更严肃、更黑暗的一幕，然后它又会给出幽默的一集。
（注：个人推测这句说的是一群人围在厕所分析那里。）
Scubachele：这是你演过的情感最浓烈的角色吗？
Laurel：我不能说这个角色的情感比其它角色来的更加浓烈。我拍了很多受众偏少的独立电影，那些角色的情感也很浓烈，但这绝对是我演过的情感最浓烈的电视角色。
（个人必须强推一次“Loser Love”，导演后来拍摄了达拉斯买家俱乐部和大小谎言）
longtime_l_wife：Tina与Bette会讨论同性婚姻话题吗？
Laurel：继续往下看吧。它很可能发生。而且我认为能够谈论这个话题会非常棒。
（然后TB越过讨论直接求婚了，啊~我的608）
Tkzoo：你或者其他演员会担心好莱坞的刻板印象吗？因为这非常流行。
Laurel：我不能替其他人回答这个问题。就我自己而言，我完全不担心刻板印象。我认为作为一个演员，就要不断扮演不同类型的角色，如果我被直接定义了，那我就只能责怪自己没有能力做到自己想成为的好演员。《双姝奇恋》后我演了25个不同类型的角色，没有谁把我定义在18岁的女同性恋上。我也相信TLW的演员们不会因为这部剧就被其他剧组定义为女同性恋演员。
（注：好莱坞黄金时代的明星制让好莱坞有了商业保障的同时，也为了票房牺牲了演员的多样性。他们不断重复已经出演过的类型角色借此保障票房收入，最明显的例子就是玛丽莲梦露。）
turtle2：你认为“男性化”的女同性恋者会出现在剧中吗？
Laurel：在已经播出过的那么多电视剧里，“男性化”角色多吗？不多。那将来能看到更多类型的角色吗？当然。在已经播出的短短2集里我们能看到所有类型的角色吗？当然不可能。但我希望大家能够继续关注这部剧，因为我认为在将来它会展现一个更大更全的女同世界。如果因为2集就下了判断那我会非常遗憾。就让我们继续关注剧集发展吧。
（注：Shane这个角色最开始的定义是性感美丽，雌雄同体，但随着时间推移不知为何就成了“男性化”的女同代表……）
Carriebomb：你最认同Shane？为什么？
Laurel：因为我认同她身上的雌雄同体，假小子主义，对亲密的恐惧以及自由的观念。
Blueberry：你对自己突然成为同性恋社群的“标志”做好了准备吗？
Laurel：完全没有，对此我还挺害羞的。
Foxmists：有没有可能剧里会展现Tibette过去的7年时光。
Laurel：会，敬请期待。有一集会展现每个角色的出柜故事，你能够从那里看到Tina和Bette的过去，那个故事非常精彩。
（精彩在Tina一边说First Last&Forever的同时Bette在精神出轨吗？）
Foxmists：在这部剧里，你有没有特别想向社会发表的声明或信息？
Laurel：我最想说的哪怕群体不同，生活方式也大多相近。我认为TLW将向大众表明，任何一种生活方式都不应当被批判，每个人都不该固步自封，也不该畏惧其它群体。就我个人来说，我很高兴能代表其中一种群体出现在屏幕上向其他群体展现其实大家没有什么不同。
Soccergrrl：Laurel你演的特别好。我爱死它了。我想问问如果可能你想看谁在节目中客串？
Laurel：安吉丽娜·朱莉，莎尔玛·海雅克（出演了《墨西哥往事》和《四个房间》），黛安·基顿（《教父》、《安妮·霍尔》），朱迪·福斯特，我知道，这愿望清单有点“大”，但那又怎样呢？
Hawkeye：就你个人来说TLW代表什么？
Laurel：爱。
Heroinhairweave：就你所知TLW有续订第二季吗？
Laurel：我不知道。请挥舞起十字为我们祈祷吧，那会有帮助的。
（注：双关语。既是指十字架也是指订阅）
Foxmists：是不是就和我们听到的各类宣传那样，剧里面有很多即兴表演？
Laurel：没错。比较重要的场景鲜少即兴，但打电话、开车这类经常发生的小事上通常都是即兴。如果碰到比较麻烦的场景我们也想即兴的话，没有编剧允许，我们就会放弃这个想法。
Ber：第一季结束后你个人想带走什么？我不是说实物，而是说情感。
Laurel：第一季里Tina与Bette对关系的探索对我产生了极为深远的影响，也让我收获了很多。探索Tina想要一个孩子的愿望，还有她与Bette共同生孩子的过程都非常接近我的心，因为我也想要组成一个家庭。我真的很感谢大家的关注与回应，我也希望能够继续续订下去，因为我们还有很多的故事要讲。
sho_moderator：谢谢你的参与Laurel，我们希望你喜欢今晚的剧集与谈话。
以下原文
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Laurel: I’m just really excited to talk to everyone because I know that the tone and the style of this episode is very different from the pilot, and I would love to know what people think.
ebb2002: Laurel, thanks for taking the time to chat. What would you say is the biggest surprise to you about your experience of doing the show?
Laurel: I would say the biggest surprise was how amazing this ensemble of women fit together. I had no idea that that many women could be that cohesive.
kitkat: Do you feel like your character is defined by her quest to get pregnant?
Laurel: As the series moves on, I think you’ll see that there are moments that my character does define herself by the quest to have a baby, and she sees how dangerous that is. I wanted to explore what happens to a woman, and Eileen Chaiken wanted to explore this also, what happens to women when they have high-powered jobs and they quit them, all just to get pregnant. And I think that the mistake that Tina might be making is that she’s quit everything in order to be pregnant, instead of just continuing her work and letting her pregnancy fall into place. I think what will be explored in the entire season is the ramifications of what that does to somebody.
mostlywild98: What about your role as Tina do you find to be the toughest to portray authentically?
Laurel: I find the hardest thing to play about Tina is her centeredness and her easiness and her lack of fight for control. Because I’m a control freak, and I’m very different from Tina in a lot of ways. So there are some elements that I find very difficult, some of her softer qualities. I’m more brash than Tina. I have a much quicker temper.
latinamimi2: Laurel, what qualities do you like about Tina’s character?
Laurel: The best thing about Tina is her loyalty. She is fiercely loyal in her relationships and in her friendships. I think she has a soulful quality and a spiritual quality that is often lacking in Los Angeles. I think those qualities are lovely and fun to play.
kimtowin: How did you prepare for the role of Tina?
Laurel: I was cast in this very quickly before it shot, so sometimes you do a lot of preparation and sometimes you don’t do as much, so you hope that whatever you bring to it is going to be good. The majority of my preparation was in conjunction with Eileen Chaiken and Rose Troche in creating a history for Tina. The history for Tina was very different than what I thought in would be, in terms of her sexuality. I can’t say anything else more because I would reveal some of the aspects that will be revealed later in the season. But other than preparing the history for the character, basically I just started working out like crazy because I knew there would be nudity, and trying to learn all the dialogue I could. As far as playing a lesbian, I had no issues, because I had already played the lead in The Incredible True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, and it basically jump-started my career.
cruise13: What direction would you like to see your character go in?
Laurel: I would like to see my character become more independent. I’d like to see my character find more balance in her life. But the beauty of being able to find those things, to me, is great, because all of these characters are flawed. For an actor it’s really great, because it’s really boring to play picture-perfect television characters. And that’s not what anyone’s going to see on The L Word.
oxymoron: What is your response to the criticism surrounding straight women playing gay women? Personally, as long as a man isn’t playing us, I don’t care.
Laurel: Yeah, in a perfect world, maybe there would be an all-lesbian cast playing all lesbians. I kind of feel we get back to the same place, which is why does an actor’s sexual orientation have to match the character? Should gay actors only be able to play gay characters, or shouldn’t they be allowed to play straight or gay characters? I feel like it’s important to focus on the characters and celebrate the show, and hopefully we will create an atmosphere in Hollywood where people are comfortable with being out.
oswegomv: Was filming the Country Club Mission scene as much of a hoot as it came across on screen?
Laurel: Yes it was a complete riot, the whole day that we shot in the country club. Making out with Jennifer in the country club was delicious. When we had to walk down and see Tammy Lynn Michaels, she cracked us all up by mooning us. And that was the tone of the day, just to really have fun.
beth: How much input do you personally have in Tina’s character?
Laurel: We all have a lot of input in our characters. Eileen is a great listener, as I should say, are Rose and Gwen. And we’re allowed to bring a lot to the table.
slzsu: What areas of the relationship between Tina and Bette would you like to see explored this season?
Laurel: The power struggle that happens in same-sex relationships, or even hetero relationships, when one person is financially supporting the other.
semiaimes: I’m sure most viewers can see parts of themselves in some or all, mayhap only one of the characters, regardless of orientation. If you weren’t portraying Tina, which character would you identify with most?
Laurel: I think I would identify with Shane.
kendra: From reading articles I can see that the cast and crew all realize that what they are doing is very important socially… have you been able to experience first hand the kind of positivity the show is generating for the gay and lesbian community?
Laurel: To me, the first sign of the social importance was in the New York magazine article and what the New York lesbian community had to say. And that our show, being a Los Angeles show, still could be celebrated in all other sub-cultures in the country, especially New York, which is a very different place from LA. From my own experience, when I did The Incredible True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, I had a huge response from gay teenagers, which was wonderful because the suicide rate is high for gay teens, and I think our movie did have an impact. But it was an independent film, so it reached a smaller audience. So to me it’s exciting that a television show can reach such a broad audience. And hopefully pave the way for more lesbian characters to be on television.
mam: I loved the Mission Impossible/queer eye for the”Lesbian”scene of the show tonight. Do you prefer the humorous scenes to the more dramatic?
Laurel: I like a balance between the humorous scenes and the more dramatic scenes. There are some days when the really heavy dramatic scenes can be exhausting, so it’s refreshing to go into a new day where there’s a lighter scene. I think the writers mix the comedy in very nicely with the more serious subject matter, and as the season moves on, the show will explore more serious, darker subject matters, Then to be followed with a more playful episode.
scubachele: Is this your most intense role?
Laurel: I can’t say that there is one role more intense than the others. I’ve done a lot of independent films that people haven’t seen, so there’s been intense roles there. But this is the most intense television role I’ve ever had.
longtime_l_wife: Will Tina and Bette tackle the topic of gay marriage?
Laurel: Keep watching. It could happen. I think it would be great to tackle that.
tkzoo: Are you or any one else in the cast concerned about stereotyping, since it is so prevalent in Hollywood?
Laurel: I cannot answer for anyone else in the cast. As for myself, I am completely not worried about stereotyping. I feel that it is my job as an actor to have as wide a range as possible, and so if I were to be typecast too many times, I would only blame myself because I’m not a good enough character actress, which is what I would like to be. From my own experience, I did 25 features after Two Girls in Love, and I never felt anyone typecast me as an eighteen-year-old baby butch lesbian. I also believe that there’s not a lesbian type, and that’s what’s going to show up on our show.
turtle2: Do you think that “butch” lesbians are portrayed on the show?
Laurel: In the episodes that you’ve seen, no, you haven’t seen that many butch characters. Will you see more? Yes. Can we get a representation of everybody in two episodes? No, it’s impossible. But I hope that people will continue to watch, because I think that there’s going to be a large mix of everything, and it’s a shame to judge it so quickly. Just see how it unfolds.
carriebomb: You would identify with Shane? How so?
Laurel: I identify with androgyny, tomboyism, fear of intimacy, and a sense of freedom.
blueberry: Are you prepared for your sudden status as an ‘icon’ in the gay community?
Laurel: No, I’d have no idea how to prepare for that. I’m way too shy.
warriorgrrl: Will there be a time that we get the back story on Bette and Tina’s relationship for the past 7 years?
Laurel: Yes! Stay tuned. There’ll be an episode where you’ll get to hear everyone’s coming-out story. You’ll get lots of history on more than just Bette and Tina, but you will get their history. It’s an excellent episode.
foxmists: Is there a particular social statement or message that you want to get out to society in this show?
Laurel: I think the main statement is to show that alternative lifestyles are not that different. I think that our show will show that these lifestyles are not to be judged, feared, or pigeon-holed. For me personally, I’m really proud to be representing a possible alternative family on screen. To show other families that this lifestyle isn’t so different.
soccergrrl: Laurel, great job on the show. I love it! I would like to ask who would you like to see make a guest appearance on the show?
Laurel: Angelina Jolie. Selma Hayek. Diane Keaton. Jodi Foster. I know, it’s a big wish list, but what can you do?
hawkeye: What do you personally think the L Word stands for?
Laurel: Love.
heroinhairweave: When will you know if there’s going to be a season 2?
Laurel: I don’t know. Keep your fingers crossed for us. Watching helps!
foxmists: Is there a lot of improvisation on the show as we’ve heard in various ads?
Laurel: Yeah, there is. The more important, more dramatic scenes are less improvised, and small things like telephone calls, driving, talking on the cell phone, little blurbs that seem really natural, can be improvised. But if we have trouble with the scene, we may improvise to work it out, but then we lock it in with permission from the writer.
ber: Once the season is over with, what do you personally take away with you. Not objects, but emotions.
Laurel: I took away a lot from this first season on an emotional level. Exploring Bette and Tina’s relationship had a profound emotional effect on me. Exploring Tina’s desire to have a child and the journey that her and Bette take to have a child hits very close to my heart. Because I want to start a family. I’m really grateful that people are watching and that we are having such a positive response. I hope that we have many more seasons, because I think we have many more stories to tell.
sho_moderator: Thank you for chatting with Laurel Holloman. We hope you’ve enjoyed the chat and tonight’s episode of The L Word.
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